A confused soul, trying to seek answers to questions and puzzles (albeit stupid and silly) life poses. Living life a little, amidst the perplexity!! :)
It is the end of life when you break open the egg from outside. But it is the beginning of a new life when it breaks open from within!
You have a choice!
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The egg(or life in general)should be hard enough to resist external impact and thereby put an end to things; at the same time soft enough from within to start life afresh... Paradoxical is'nt it??
As far as reality is concerned, I can only say that 'People who are not in touch with reality are deluded'. Irrespective of whether its internal or external, if you fail to accept who and what you are and where you are, nothing can make a difference! If you do have the knowledge of it all, then again, 'you have a choice'!Its unto u, any time! And reality shall manifest. What do you say?
Well,I accept when you say "People who are not in touch with reality are deluded". But,I also have an alternate view point which I thought I should put forth. First of all, What is reality?; Who defines it?;Is it time-tested?;What are its dimensions?; Can we transgress it?; The list can remain endless, which makes me conclude that the definition of reality is relative.
But there is also something called "Absolute reality" which has a spiritual dimension to it.
So,does, not accepting reality make us both relatively deluded & absolutely deluded or either one or neither?
Are they mutually exclusive? Do they cut into each other? What proportion of it required in life and how should it be blended?... Which takes me back to square one of "Making a choice" , in line with your original quote. Great One indeed!!
Waiting to hear your prespective on the issues/thoughts mentioned above.
About Me: I neither fight for my identity nor prefer to remain anonymous during my normal course of life.
But at this point of time, I would prefer it this way as I do not want to fall into the trap of Ad-Hominem.
You can be rest assured, I am neither a stalker nor have any intentions to score brownie points.
Will reveal myself in a couple of days. Hope you will bear with me.
If you permit,I would love to exhange my view points on all your (37 + 7) blog entries but for the poetic ones as I am not as Right-Brainer as you are.
Oh well, you are welcome to argue against me! Lemme put forth my view.. In the eyes of a common man, Reality is what EXISTS and not what WE think MUST EXIST! It is what U can see n feel! That in which u ARE a significant part. NOW is the reference. And that is all there is to it. The question of relativity doesn’t arise here. But then, the dimensions of reality will matter to you when you want to ‘relate’ to the Reality. Now, if you don’t want to or if you are ignorant then there is no point! You have a right to choose. Relative reality is confined to your scope of thought! As the word it self says it is “relative” and can simply be termed as an illusion! Absolute reality is the ULTIMATE truth of life. But in reality, ‘absolute reality’ is beyond time-space continuum and beyond manifestation. Relative reality and absolute reality are best juxtaposed! There is a wide gap between the two. And our choice matters there. And that’s when we can possibly “cut thru”, as u say. If you are all set to narrow down the gap(which we must) then, I take a bow for I quite know how difficult the choice in itself to attempt to do that is! Strictly speaking and yet again as U say, the absolute is the ultimate nature of Reality, and it is beyond dimensions for dimensions are the experience of manifestation. The question of transgressing hence doesn’t arise for it is boundless. What will you cross when there is no boundary? Do I sound confused?? ;) I concur with your thoughts. But where and what we are to day and how do we reach the state of absolute reality is the final quest of life, in terms of spirituality!!
First of all I am not here to argue against you. But then, we all know that a healthy debate(euphemism for argument:)) is the best way to elicit truth or reality or knowledge,as is evident from the ancient Katopanishad(arguments between Nachiketha and Yama about "Sachidananda") or the dialogue between Krishna and Arjuna in the Bhagavadgeetha or even the policy debates that take place in US Senate and Congress and ofcourse our great Indian parliamentary debate albeit with lower standards underscored by rhetorics and adhominems.
Before I exchange my views on any of your blog entries, I want to emphasise that I have just four things in mind: 1) If your view points/thoughts are better than mine, I shall subscribe to it with all earnest zeal and try to build upon it if possible. 2) If I feel that I have an idea or I know of an idea which is similar to yours, then I shall be placing it before u & waiting to hear from you. 3) If I feel that any of ur idea is a bit skewed(coz I believe no idea can be flawed in its entireity)......I shall just present it before u and say......."Hey check it out!!" 4) If I have no idea of what you are talking about....all I can do is laugh at myself for not having known about it and also laugh a bit at you for having thought about it.
Coming to the topic of reality, I absolutely have no misgivings/apprehensions on the idea of "Absolute reality". All I can say is, yes it does exist, whether choose to accept it or not,we mortals CANNOT challenge/transgress it. I can see it in various forms such as the idea of God,theory of relativity, inverted bell-curve, theory of probality,atman/bhraman etc.. Hinduism attributes it to atman/bhraman, religious people to God,Scientists to entropy,Physicists to relativity,statisticians to inverted bell-curve and mere mortals to the famous James Bond ...007 dialogue... First time its happenstance; Second time its Coincidence; Third time its enemies' action(irrelevant though!)
Now coming to relative reality or practical reality( a new term I'd like to introduce to add to the confusion :) ) Here I feel that it can be challenged / ignored / adapted. Let me give three specific examples instead of spinning theories:)
Challenged: Many scientific discoveries and inventions like Geocentric-Heliocentric theory, mobile communication,aviation, etc...were once thought to be beyond the realm and ken of human mind( which can be a definition of practical reality). But they were successfully challenged by people who did not accept the then existing reality and the rest as we know is history. Thats Challenging the reality.
Ignored: In the book "The World is Flat"(hope u have read it),Thomas Friedman describes the changing order of the day and how some people/companies/countries chose to ignore it and bit dust ex. Kodak, Xerox etc.. Thats ingoring the reality and the undesirable affects of it but there is also a flip side to it(Will let u know of an example later)
Adapted: During the early 1990s , the primary career avenues available to graduates(BA,BSc,BComs) was that of a clerical posts, but during the IT boom and subsequent job market growth,you know how they are punchering the inflated egos of so called BE grads Thats adapting to the changing reality.
I dont know whether I am clear or confused but I accept boquets and brickbats with open arms and cheerful face with equal ease:)
Ohh my my.. I am equally amazed as i am flummoxed the way you have put forth your views. And perfectly, euphemism is heartily welcome! :) Thanks for writing again! And thanks for being considerate! :P
I agree with all that you say. But there is no conclusion to your argument! What is your final take?
And yes, go ahead and write what you think about my other posts! I am open to it all. Be it ad-hominem ATTACK or ephemism or sheer appreciation! I am all ears. I don care if you laugh at me for am comfortable with myself. I will jus take that i am different! :):)
I shall appreciate, if you could reveal yourself before that. I wonder what your anonimity can serve! I shall assure no brickbats. :)
My conclusion : " Life is primarily about Self-Realisation(Absolute/relative/practical wat ever..),I call it "self"-realisation coz the only person whom I think I can change is Me,Myself & I; at the same time accept others view point in line with the 4 points mentioned in my previous entry.
Also life is about the choices you make and how you are able to integrate and balance contradictory & complementary forces.
I am equally eager to hear your concluding take on the same.
Now,when I say I laugh at you or at myself it is neither a jeering laugh nor the Ramayan-Mahabharath...Uhahaha..Uhahaha kinda laugh...its the Silly(lalli) types :).
Since I was "relatively" free today I cud afford a 4-mark kinda essay type reply, but I must say that going forward its gonna be only 2-mark short(terse) notes type comments/reply. Hope it will be a dialogue instead of a monologue which will be boring to you & uninspiring to me.
Regarding my identity, kindly hold on just for a couple of days. Please dont cut short ur reply in revenge for my anonymity.
Oh well, I agree with what you say. As i said earlier too, if it has to be, then it is unto u. And "I" decide - to be or not to be! But, only a few understand this. The choice HAS to be made. Will people concur to change? If no, what does it take to see the change to change?
Forget about understanding these profound/esoteric thoughts,people(esp gals:) ) are not even bothered to turn towards higher things in life and you are one of those rare species!! Trust me this can keep u goin in life come what may.
The answer to the above question plus my views on a "topic" (which is very dear to me & over which I have cogitated over and to my surprise happened to appear in your blog titled "Let Me Be..") will follow shortly....may be late tonight or early tomo.
It might be a bit pedantic but brutally honest with no political correctness and niceties coz I’d rather be hated for who I am and what I am than be loved for who and what I am not!!.. (Nice contextual usage right....pat pat pat :))
Of course I expect ur views on the same. After which I shall surely reveal myself(latest sunday....depending on ur response :))
13 comments:
The egg(or life in general)should be hard enough to resist external impact and thereby put an end to things; at the same time soft enough from within to start life afresh...
Paradoxical is'nt it??
How would that choice manifest in reality?
Ur comments?
Cheers,
Known Unknown
At the outset, thanks for writing.
As far as reality is concerned, I can only say that 'People who are not in touch with reality are deluded'. Irrespective of whether its internal or external, if you fail to accept who and what you are and where you are, nothing can make a difference! If you do have the knowledge of it all, then again, 'you have a choice'!Its unto u, any time! And reality shall manifest. What do you say?
Between, are you fighting for your identity?? Or you just like ur anonimity?
Many thanks for your prompt reply.
Well,I accept when you say "People who are not in touch with reality are deluded".
But,I also have an alternate view point which I thought I should put forth.
First of all, What is reality?; Who defines it?;Is it time-tested?;What are its dimensions?; Can we transgress it?;
The list can remain endless, which makes me conclude that the definition of reality is relative.
But there is also something called "Absolute reality" which has a spiritual dimension to it.
So,does, not accepting reality make us both relatively deluded & absolutely deluded or either one or neither?
Are they mutually exclusive? Do they cut into each other? What proportion of it required in life and how should it be blended?... Which takes me back to square one of "Making a choice" , in line with your original quote.
Great One indeed!!
Waiting to hear your prespective on the issues/thoughts mentioned above.
About Me:
I neither fight for my identity nor prefer to remain anonymous during my normal course of life.
But at this point of time, I would prefer it this way as I do not want to fall into the trap of Ad-Hominem.
You can be rest assured, I am neither a stalker nor have any intentions to score brownie points.
Will reveal myself in a couple of days.
Hope you will bear with me.
If you permit,I would love to exhange my view points on all your (37 + 7) blog entries but for the poetic ones as I am not as Right-Brainer as you are.
Cheers,
Known Unknown.
Oh well, you are welcome to argue against me! Lemme put forth my view.. In the eyes of a common man, Reality is what EXISTS and not what WE think MUST EXIST! It is what U can see n feel! That in which u ARE a significant part. NOW is the reference. And that is all there is to it. The question of relativity doesn’t arise here. But then, the dimensions of reality will matter to you when you want to ‘relate’ to the Reality. Now, if you don’t want to or if you are ignorant then there is no point! You have a right to choose.
Relative reality is confined to your scope of thought! As the word it self says it is “relative” and can simply be termed as an illusion! Absolute reality is the ULTIMATE truth of life. But in reality, ‘absolute reality’ is beyond time-space continuum and beyond manifestation. Relative reality and absolute reality are best juxtaposed! There is a wide gap between the two. And our choice matters there. And that’s when we can possibly “cut thru”, as u say. If you are all set to narrow down the gap(which we must) then, I take a bow for I quite know how difficult the choice in itself to attempt to do that is! Strictly speaking and yet again as U say, the absolute is the ultimate nature of Reality, and it is beyond dimensions for dimensions are the experience of manifestation. The question of transgressing hence doesn’t arise for it is boundless. What will you cross when there is no boundary? Do I sound confused?? ;) I concur with your thoughts. But where and what we are to day and how do we reach the state of absolute reality is the final quest of life, in terms of spirituality!!
First of all I am not here to argue against you.
But then, we all know that a healthy debate(euphemism for argument:)) is the best way to elicit truth or reality or knowledge,as is evident from the ancient Katopanishad(arguments between Nachiketha and Yama about "Sachidananda")
or the dialogue between Krishna and Arjuna in the Bhagavadgeetha or even the policy debates that take place in US Senate
and Congress and ofcourse our great Indian parliamentary debate albeit with lower standards underscored by rhetorics and adhominems.
Before I exchange my views on any of your blog entries, I want to emphasise that I have just four things in mind:
1) If your view points/thoughts are better than mine, I shall subscribe to it with all earnest zeal and try to build upon it if possible.
2) If I feel that I have an idea or I know of an idea which is similar to yours, then I shall be placing it before u & waiting to hear from you.
3) If I feel that any of ur idea is a bit skewed(coz I believe no idea can be flawed in its entireity)......I shall just present it before u and say......."Hey check it out!!"
4) If I have no idea of what you are talking about....all I can do is laugh at myself for not having known about it and also laugh a bit at you for having thought about it.
Coming to the topic of reality, I absolutely have no misgivings/apprehensions on the idea of "Absolute reality".
All I can say is, yes it does exist, whether choose to accept it or not,we mortals CANNOT challenge/transgress it.
I can see it in various forms such as the idea of God,theory of relativity, inverted bell-curve,
theory of probality,atman/bhraman etc..
Hinduism attributes it to atman/bhraman, religious people to God,Scientists to entropy,Physicists to relativity,statisticians to inverted bell-curve
and mere mortals to the famous James Bond ...007 dialogue... First time its happenstance; Second time its Coincidence; Third time its enemies' action(irrelevant though!)
Now coming to relative reality or practical reality( a new term I'd like to introduce to add to the confusion :) )
Here I feel that it can be challenged / ignored / adapted.
Let me give three specific examples instead of spinning theories:)
Challenged: Many scientific discoveries and inventions like Geocentric-Heliocentric theory, mobile communication,aviation, etc...were once thought to be beyond the realm and ken of human mind( which can be a definition of practical reality).
But they were successfully challenged by people who did not accept the then existing reality and the rest as we know is history.
Thats Challenging the reality.
Ignored: In the book "The World is Flat"(hope u have read it),Thomas Friedman describes the changing order of the day and how some people/companies/countries chose to ignore it and bit dust ex. Kodak, Xerox etc..
Thats ingoring the reality and the undesirable affects of it but there is also a flip side to it(Will let u know of an example later)
Adapted: During the early 1990s , the primary career avenues available to graduates(BA,BSc,BComs) was that of a clerical posts,
but during the IT boom and subsequent job market growth,you know how they are punchering the inflated egos of so called BE grads
Thats adapting to the changing reality.
I dont know whether I am clear or confused but I accept boquets and brickbats with open arms and cheerful face with equal ease:)
Waiting to hear from you!!
Cheers,
Known Unknown.
Ohh my my.. I am equally amazed as i am flummoxed the way you have put forth your views. And perfectly, euphemism is heartily welcome! :) Thanks for writing again! And thanks for being considerate! :P
I agree with all that you say.
But there is no conclusion to your argument! What is your final take?
And yes, go ahead and write what you think about my other posts! I am open to it all. Be it ad-hominem ATTACK or ephemism or sheer appreciation! I am all ears. I don care if you laugh at me for am comfortable with myself. I will jus take that i am different! :):)
I shall appreciate, if you could reveal yourself before that. I wonder what your anonimity can serve! I shall assure no brickbats. :)
My conclusion : " Life is primarily about Self-Realisation(Absolute/relative/practical wat ever..),I call it "self"-realisation coz the only person whom I think I can change is Me,Myself & I; at the same time accept others view point in line with the 4 points mentioned in my previous entry.
Also life is about the choices you make and how you are able to integrate and balance contradictory & complementary forces.
I am equally eager to hear your concluding take on the same.
Now,when I say I laugh at you or at myself it is neither a jeering laugh nor the Ramayan-Mahabharath...Uhahaha..Uhahaha kinda laugh...its the Silly(lalli) types :).
Since I was "relatively" free today I cud afford a 4-mark kinda essay type reply, but I must say that going forward its gonna be only 2-mark short(terse) notes type comments/reply.
Hope it will be a dialogue instead of a monologue which will be boring to you & uninspiring to me.
Regarding my identity, kindly hold on just for a couple of days. Please dont cut short ur reply in revenge for my anonymity.
Oh well, I agree with what you say.
As i said earlier too, if it has to be, then it is unto u. And "I" decide - to be or not to be! But, only a few understand this. The choice HAS to be made. Will people concur to change? If no, what does it take to see the change to change?
Forget about understanding these profound/esoteric thoughts,people(esp gals:) ) are not even bothered to turn towards higher things in life and you are one of those rare species!!
Trust me this can keep u goin in life come what may.
May ur tribe flourish !!
Oh well well well..I don think I quite seem to get u.. What do u mean exactly???
The answer to the above question plus my views on a "topic" (which is very dear to me & over which I have cogitated over and to my surprise happened to appear in your blog titled "Let Me Be..") will follow shortly....may be late tonight or early tomo.
It might be a bit pedantic but brutally honest with no political correctness and niceties coz I’d rather be hated for who I am and what I am than be loved for who and what I am not!!.. (Nice contextual usage right....pat pat pat :))
Of course I expect ur views on the same.
After which I shall surely reveal myself(latest sunday....depending on ur response :))
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